[slurm-users] Questions about adding new nodes to Slurm
Ole Holm Nielsen
Ole.H.Nielsen at fysik.dtu.dk
Tue May 4 13:51:37 UTC 2021
The task of adding or removing nodes from Slurm is well documented and
discussed in SchedMD presentations, please see my Wiki page
https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/niflheim/SLURM#add-and-remove-nodes
/Ole
On 04-05-2021 14:47, Tina Friedrich wrote:
> Not sure if that's changed but aren't there cases where 'scontrol
> reconfigure' isn't sufficient? (Like adding nodes?)
>
> But yes, that's my point exactly; it is a pretty basic day to day task
> to update slurm.conf, not some daunting operation that requires a
> downtime or anything like it. (I remember this requirement to update the
> config file everywhere & restart everything sounding like a major task
> that requires announcements & downtimes to me when I started with SLURM
> - coming from Grid Engine - and it took me while to figure out, and
> trust, that an update to slurm.conf is a very minor task, and not a
> risky one really :) ))
>
> Tina
>
> On 04/05/2021 13:32, Sid Young wrote:
>> You can push a new conf file and issue an "scontrol reconfigure" on
>> the fly as needed... I do it on our cluster as needed, do the nodes
>> first then login nodes then the slurm controller... you are making a
>> huge issue of a very basic task...
>>
>> Sid
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 4 May 2021, 22:28 Tina Friedrich, <tina.friedrich at it.ox.ac.uk
>> <mailto:tina.friedrich at it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> a lot of people already gave very good answer to how to tackle this.
>>
>> Still, I thought it worth pointing this out - you said 'you need to
>> basically shut down slurm, update the slurm.conf file, then restart'.
>> That makes it sound like a major operation with lots of prep
>> required.
>>
>> It's not like that at all. Updating slurm.conf is not a major
>> operation.
>>
>> There's absolutely no reason to shut things down first & then change
>> the
>> file. You can edit the file / ship out a new version (however you
>> like)
>> and then restart the daemons.
>>
>> The daemons do not have to all be restarted simultaneously. It is
>> of no
>> consequence if they're running with out-of-sync config files for a
>> bit,
>> really. (There's a flag you can set if you want to suppress the
>> warning
>> - 'NO_CONF_HASH' debug flag I think).
>>
>> Restarting the dameons (slurmctld, slurmd, ...) is safe. It does not
>> require cluster downtime or anything.
>>
>> I control slurm.conf using configuration management; the config
>> management process restarts the appropriate daemon (slurmctld,
>> slurmd,
>> slurmdbd) if the file changed. This certainly never happens at the
>> same
>> time; there's splay in that. It doesn't even necessarily happen on
>> the
>> controller first, or anything like that.
>>
>> What I'm trying to get across - I have a feeling this 'updating the
>> cluster wide config file' and 'file must be the same on all nodes'
>> is a
>> lot less of a procedure (and a lot less strict) than you currently
>> imagine it to be :)
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On 27/04/2021 19:35, David Henkemeyer wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'm new to Slurm (coming from PBS), and so I will likely have a
>> few
>> > questions over the next several weeks, as I work to transition my
>> > infrastructure from PBS to Slurm.
>> >
>> > My first question has to do with *_adding nodes to Slurm_*.
>> According
>> > to the FAQ (and other articles I've read), you need to basically
>> shut
>> > down slurm, update the slurm.conf file /*on all nodes in the
>> cluster*/,
>> > then restart slurm.
>> >
>> > - Why do all nodes need to know about all other nodes? From what
>> I have
>> > read, its Slurm does a checksum comparison of the slurm.conf file
>> across
>> > all nodes. Is this the only reason all nodes need to know
>> about all
>> > other nodes?
>> > - Can I create a symlink that points <sysconfdir>/slurm.conf to a
>> > slurm.conf file on an NFS mount point, which is mounted on all the
>> > nodes? This way, I would only need to update a single file, then
>> > restart Slurm across the entire cluster.
>> > - Any additional help/resources for adding/removing nodes to
>> Slurm would
>> > be much appreciated. Perhaps there is a "toolkit" out there to
>> automate
>> > some of these operations (which is what I already have for PBS,
>> and will
>> > create for Slurm, if something doesn't already exist).
>> >
>> > Thank you all,
>> >
>> > David
>>
>> -- Tina Friedrich, Advanced Research Computing Snr HPC Systems
>> Administrator
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