[slurm-users] slurmd -C showing incorrect core count

Ryan Novosielski novosirj at rutgers.edu
Fri Mar 13 06:35:04 UTC 2020


From what I know of how this works, no, it’s not getting it from a local file or the master node. I don’t believe it even makes a network connection, nor requires a slurm.conf in order to run. If you can run it fresh on a node with no config and that’s what it comes up with, it’s probably getting it from the VM somehow.

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:26 AM, mike tie <mtie at carleton.edu> wrote:
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> Yep, slurmd -C is obviously getting the data from somewhere, either a local file or from the master node.  hence my email to the group;  I was hoping that someone would just say:  "yeah, modify file xxxx".  But oh well. I'll start playing with strace and gdb later this week;  looking through the source might also be helpful.  
> 
> I'm not cloning existing virtual machines with slurm.  I have access to a vmware system that from time to time isn't running at full capacity;  usage is stable for blocks of a month or two at a time, so my thought/plan was to spin up a slurm compute node  on it, and resize it appropriately every few months (why not put it to work).  I started with 10 cores, and it looks like I can up it to 16 cores for a while, and that's when I ran into the problem.
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> -mike
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> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:15 AM Kirill 'kkm' Katsnelson <kkm at pobox.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 1:41 PM mike tie <mtie at carleton.edu> wrote:
> Here is the output of lstopo
> 
> $ lstopo -p
> Machine (63GB)
>   Package P#0 + L3 (16MB)
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#0 + PU P#0
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#1 + PU P#1
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#2 + PU P#2
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#3 + PU P#3
>   Package P#1 + L3 (16MB)
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#0 + PU P#4
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#1 + PU P#5
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#2 + PU P#6
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#3 + PU P#7
>   Package P#2 + L3 (16MB)
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#0 + PU P#8
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#1 + PU P#9
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#2 + PU P#10
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#3 + PU P#11
>   Package P#3 + L3 (16MB)
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#0 + PU P#12
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#1 + PU P#13
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#2 + PU P#14
>     L2 (4096KB) + L1d (32KB) + L1i (32KB) + Core P#3 + PU P#15
> 
> There is no sane way to derive the number 10 from this topology. obviously: it has a prime factor of 5, but everything in the lstopo output is sized in powers of 2 (4 packages, a.k.a.  sockets, 4 single-threaded CPU cores per). 
> 
> I responded yesterday but somehow managed to plop my signature into the middle of it, so maybe you have missed inline replies?
> 
> It's very, very likely that the number is stored *somewhere*. First to eliminate is the hypothesis that the number is acquired from the control daemon. That's the simplest step and the largest landgrab in the divide-and-conquer analysis plan. Then just look where it comes from on the VM. strace(1) will reveal all files slurmd reads. 
> 
> You are not rolling out the VMs from an image, ain't you? I'm wondering why do you need to tweak an existing VM that is already in a weird state. Is simply setting its snapshot aside and creating a new one from an image hard/impossible? I did not touch VMWare for more than 10 years, so I may be a bit naive; in the platform I'm working now (GCE), create-use-drop pattern of VM use is much more common and simpler than create and maintain it to either *ad infinitum* or *ad nauseam*, whichever will have been reached the earliest.  But I don't know anything about VMWare; maybe it's not possible or feasible with it.
> 
>  -kkm
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