As evidenced by numerous responses, my understanding was incorrect. Thanks all for setting me straight, saved me quite a bit of trouble.
John
From:
Thomas M. Payerle via slurm-users <slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com>
Date: Thursday, June 5, 2025 at 9:40 AM
To: Bjørn-Helge Mevik <b.h.mevik@usit.uio.no>, slurm-users@schedmd.com <slurm-users@schedmd.com>
Subject: [slurm-users] Re: Changing account names in sacctmgr
We are using slurm 24. 05. 5,
and on that and previous versions when you do sbatch and do not explicitly provide --account, it will use the defaultAccount field in the sacctmgr database. Our Unix group and Slurm allocation names are not the same
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We are using slurm 24.05.5, and on that and previous versions when you do sbatch and do not explicitly provide --account, it will use the defaultAccount field in the sacctmgr database.
Our Unix group and Slurm allocation names are not the same (groups have a two letter cluster name prefix, and allocations get a suffix indicating the source of the funding, and
many users belong to multiple allocations with the same group). But you can test it; in particular, if you do "sacctmgr show user USERNAME" where USERNAME is some user on your system, it should list something like:
sacctmgr show user payerle
User Def Acct Admin
---------- ---------- ---------
payerle test-paid None
In this case, my default account is test-paid, and that will be used if I do not explicitly specify an account when submitting a job. (And we do not have a test-paid Unix group,
and the closest unix group I belong to is zt-test).
Actually, the behavior you describe with the groups is new to me (although Google's AI also suggested something similar); I cannot find much in the docs to support either your
or my description of Slurm behavior. All I know is that is how our Slurm behaves, and it has behaved that way in the ~10 years we have been using it. It is possible the behavior is dependent upon other configuration settings in Slurm (Slurm is like that),
However, in
https://slurm.schedmd.com/sacctmgr.html, under Specifications for Users, it described the DefaultAccount field
<quote>
DefaultAccount=<account>
Identify the default bank account name to be used for a job if none is specified at submission time. </quote>
I suggest you test it out; create a new account + group and user in the account; verify expected account defaulting when using sbatch, examine the defaultaccount for the user (sacctmgr show user), then change
the name of the group w/out changing the defaultaccount and verify account defaulting works as expected.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 3:42 AM Bjørn-Helge Mevik via slurm-users <slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com>
wrote:
"Burian, John via slurm-users" <slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com> writes:
> My understanding is that in the absence of
> an --account option, sbatch/salloc assumes the account is the user’s
> primary POSIX group.
Are you sure about that? I've never heard of such defaulting. My
understanding is that without --account, sbatch/salloc will use what has
been set as the user's DefaultAccount in Slurmdbd. That can be set
explicitly with sacctmgr first time a user is created, but failing that,
the account of the first user-account association of the user will be
used as DefaultAccount.
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