<div dir="auto">My opinion is no, at least not forced. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 1:40 PM Amjad Syed <<a href="mailto:amjadcsu@gmail.com">amjadcsu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Agreed the point  of greater  responsibility  but  even rm -r  ( without  f) gives  a warning.  In this case should slurm have that  option ( forced)   especially  if  it can immediately  kill a running  job?  <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 6 Jul 2023, 18:16 Jason Simms, <<a href="mailto:jsimms1@swarthmore.edu" target="_blank">jsimms1@swarthmore.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">An unfortunate example of the “with great power comes great responsibility” maxim. Linux will gleefully let you rm -fr your entire system, drop production databases, etc., provided you have the right privileges. Ask me how I know…</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Still, I get the point. Would it be possible to somehow ask for confirmation if you are setting a max time that is less than the current walltime? Perhaps. Could you script that yourself? Yes, I’m certain of it. Those kind of built-in safeguards aren’t super common, however. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jason</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 12:55 PM Amjad Syed <<a href="mailto:amjadcsu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">amjadcsu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">Yes, the initial End Time was 7-00:00:00 but it allowed the typo (16:00:00) which caused the jobs to be killed without warning</div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Amjad</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:27 PM Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC (USA) <<a href="mailto:noam.bernstein@nrl.navy.mil" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">noam.bernstein@nrl.navy.mil</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">



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Is the issue that the error in the time made it shorter than the time the job had already run, so it killed it immediately?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No, not a bug, I would say. When the time limit is reached, that's it, job dies. I wouldn't be aware of a way to manage that. Once the time limit is reached, it wouldn't be a hard limit if you then had to notify the user and then...
 what? How long would you give them to extend the time? Wouldn't be much of a limit if a job can be extended, plus that would throw off the scheduler/estimator. I'd chalk it up to an unfortunate typo.
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<div>We were trying to increase the time limit of a slurm running job</div>
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<div>scontrol update job=<jobid> TimeLimit=16-00:00:00</div>
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<div>But we accidentally got it to 16 hours</div>
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<div>This actually timeout and killed the running job and did not give any notification</div>
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<div>Is this a bug, should not the user be warned that this job will be killled ?</div>
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