<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Gérard,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If I understood you correctly your goal was to limit the number of minutes each project can run. By associating each project to a slurm account with a nodecay QoS then you will have achieved your goal.</div><div class="">Try a project with a very small limit and you will see that it won’t run.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You don’t have to add anything. Each QoS will accumulate its respective usage, i.e, the usage of all users on that account. Users can even be on different accounts (projects) and charge the respective project with the parameter --account on sbatch.</div><div class="">The GrpTRESMins is always changed on the QoS with a command like:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">sacctmgr update qos where qos=... set GrpTRESMin=cpu=….</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hope that makes sense!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">MAO</div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 28 Jun 2022, at 18:30, <a href="mailto:gerard.gil@cines.fr" class="">gerard.gil@cines.fr</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: "trebuchet ms", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><div class="">Hi Miguel,<br class=""><br class="">OK, I did'nt know this command.<br class=""><br class="">I'm not sure to understand how it works regarding to my goal.<br class=""></div><div class="">I use the following command inspired by the command you gave me and <!--StartFragment-->I obtain a UsageRaw for each QOS.<!--EndFragment--> <br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><!--StartFragment--><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="" data-mce-style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000;">scontrol -o show assoc_mgr</span><!--EndFragment--> -accounts=myaccount Users=" "<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__" class=""><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Do I have to sumup all QOS <!--StartFragment-->RawUsage <!--EndFragment--> to obtain the RawUsage of myaccount with NoDecay ?</div><div class="">If I set GrpTRESMins for an Account and not for a QOS, does SLURM handle to sumpup these QOS RawUsage to control if the GrpTRESMins account limit is reach ?<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again for your precious help.<br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><br data-mce-bogus="1" class=""></div><div class=""><span style="color: #3333ff;" class=""><span style="" class="">Gérard </span><br class=""></span><a href="http://www.cines.fr/" target="_blank" class=""></a><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__" class=""><div data-marker="__HEADERS__" class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><b class="">De: </b>"Miguel Oliveira" <<a href="mailto:miguel.oliveira@uc.pt" class="">miguel.oliveira@uc.pt</a>><br class=""><b class="">À: </b>"Slurm-users" <<a href="mailto:slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com" class="">slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Envoyé: </b>Mardi 28 Juin 2022 17:23:18<br class=""><b class="">Objet: </b>Re: [slurm-users] GrpTRESMins and GrpTRESRaw usage<br class=""></blockquote></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__" class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hi Gérard,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The way you are checking is against the association and as such it ought to be decreasing in order to be used by fair share appropriately.</div><div class="">The counter used that does not decrease is on the QoS, not the association. You can check that with:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">scontrol -o show assoc_mgr | grep "^QOS='+account+’</span><font class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">”</span></font></div><div class=""><font class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font class="">That ought to give you two numbers. The first is the limit, or N for not limit, and the second in parenthesis the usage.</font></div><div class=""><font class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font class="">Hope that helps.</font></div><div class=""><font class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font class="">Best,</font></div><div class=""><font class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font class="">Miguel Afonso Oliveira<br class=""></font><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On 28 Jun 2022, at 08:58, <a href="mailto:gerard.gil@cines.fr" class="" target="_blank">gerard.gil@cines.fr</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: "trebuchet ms", sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><div class="">Hi Miguel,<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I modified my test configuration to evaluate the effect of NoDecay.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">I modified all QOS adding <strong class="">NoDecay</strong> Flag.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">toto@login1:~/TEST$ sacctmgr show QOS<br class=""> Name Priority GraceTime Preempt PreemptExemptTime PreemptMode Flags UsageThres UsageFactor GrpTRES GrpTRESMins GrpTRESRunMin GrpJobs GrpSubmit GrpWall MaxTRES MaxTRESPerNode MaxTRESMins MaxWall MaxTRESPU MaxJobsPU MaxSubmitPU MaxTRESPA MaxJobsPA MaxSubmitPA MinTRES <br class="">---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ------------------- ----------- ---------------------------------------- ---------- ----------- ------------- ------------- ------------- ------- --------- ----------- ------------- -------------- ------------- ----------- ------------- --------- ----------- ------------- --------- ----------- ------------- <br class=""> normal 0 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 <br class="">interactif 10 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=50 node=22 1-00:00:00 node=50 <br class=""> petit 4 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=1500 node=22 1-00:00:00 node=300 <br class=""> gros 6 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=2106 node=700 1-00:00:00 node=700 <br class=""> court 8 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=1100 node=100 02:00:00 node=300 <br class=""> long 4 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=500 node=200 5-00:00:00 node=200 <br class=""> special 10 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=2106 node=2106 5-00:00:00 node=2106 <br class=""> support 10 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=2106 node=700 1-00:00:00 node=2106 <br class=""> visu 10 00:00:00 cluster NoDecay 1.000000 node=4 node=700 06:00:00 node=4 <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I submitted a bunch of jobs to control the NoDecay efficiency and I noticed <strong class="">RawUsage</strong> as well as <strong class="">GrpTRESRaw</strong> <strong class="">cpu</strong> is still decreasing.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">toto@login1:~/TEST$ sshare -A dci -u " " -o account,user,GrpTRESRaw%80,<strong class="">GrpTRESMins</strong>,RawUsage<br class=""> Account User <strong class="">GrpTRESRaw GrpTRESMins RawUsage</strong><br class="">-------------------- ---------- ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ -----------<br class="">dci <strong class="">cpu=6932</strong>,mem=12998963,energy=0,node=216,billing=6932,fs/disk=0,vmem=0,pages=0 cpu=17150 <strong class="">415966</strong><br class="">toto@login1:~/TEST$ sshare -A dci -u " " -o account,user,GrpTRESRaw%80,<strong class="">GrpTRESMins</strong>,<strong class="">RawUsage</strong><br class=""> Account User <strong class="">GrpTRESRaw GrpTRESMins RawUsage</strong><br class="">-------------------- ---------- ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ -----------<br class="">dci <strong class="">cpu=6931</strong>,mem=12995835,energy=0,node=216,billing=6931,fs/disk=0,vmem=0,pages=0 cpu=17150 <strong class="">415866</strong><br class="">toto@login1:~/TEST$ sshare -A dci -u " " -o account,user,GrpTRESRaw%80,GrpTRESMins,RawUsage<br class=""> Account User <strong class="">GrpTRESRaw GrpTRESMins RawUsage</strong> <br class="">-------------------- ---------- ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ ----------- <br class="">dci <strong class="">cpu=6929</strong>,mem=12992708,energy=0,node=216,billing=6929,fs/disk=0,vmem=0,pages=0 cpu=17150 <strong class="">415766</strong> <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Something I forgot to do ?<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Best,<br class="">Gérard<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="color: #3333ff;" class=""><span style="" class="">Cordialement,</span></span></div><div class=""><span style="color: #3333ff;" class=""><span style="" class="">Gérard Gil</span><br class=""><br class="">Département Calcul Intensif</span><br class="">Centre Informatique National de l'Enseignement Superieur<br class="">950, rue de Saint Priest<br class="">34097 Montpellier CEDEX 5<br class="">FRANCE<br class=""><br class="">tel : (334) 67 14 14 14<br class="">fax : (334) 67 52 37 63<br class="">web : <a href="http://www.cines.fr/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.cines.fr</a><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><hr id="zwchr" class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><b class="">De: </b>"Gérard Gil" <<a href="mailto:gerard.gil@cines.fr" class="" target="_blank">gerard.gil@cines.fr</a>><br class=""><b class="">À: </b>"Slurm-users" <<a href="mailto:slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com" class="" target="_blank">slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc: </b>"slurm-users" <<a href="mailto:slurm-users@schedmd.com" class="" target="_blank">slurm-users@schedmd.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Envoyé: </b>Vendredi 24 Juin 2022 14:52:12<br class=""><b class="">Objet: </b>Re: [slurm-users] GrpTRESMins and GrpTRESRaw usage<br class=""></blockquote></div><div class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> Hi Miguel,<br class=""> <br class=""> Good !!<br class=""> <br class=""> I'll try this options on all existing QOS and see if everything works as<br class=""> expected.<br class=""> I'll inform you on the results.<br class=""> <br class=""> <br class=""> Thanks a lot<br class=""> <br class=""> Best,<br class=""> Gérard<br class=""> <br class=""> <br class=""> ----- Mail original -----<br class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> De: "Miguel Oliveira" <<a href="mailto:miguel.oliveira@uc.pt" class="" target="_blank">miguel.oliveira@uc.pt</a>><br class=""> À: "Slurm-users" <<a href="mailto:slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com" class="" target="_blank">slurm-users@lists.schedmd.com</a>><br class=""> Cc: "slurm-users" <<a href="mailto:slurm-users@schedmd.com" class="" target="_blank">slurm-users@schedmd.com</a>><br class=""> Envoyé: Vendredi 24 Juin 2022 14:07:16<br class=""> Objet: Re: [slurm-users] GrpTRESMins and GrpTRESRaw usage</blockquote><br class=""> <br class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> Hi Gérard,<br class=""> <br class=""> I believe so. All our accounts correspond to one project and all have an<br class=""> associated QoS with NoDecay and DenyOnLimit. This is enough to restrict usage<br class=""> on each individual project.<br class=""> You only need these flags on the QoS. The association will carry on as usual and<br class=""> fairshare will not be impacted.<br class=""> <br class=""> Hope that helps,<br class=""> <br class=""> Miguel Oliveira<br class=""> <br class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> On 24 Jun 2022, at 12:56, <a href="mailto:gerard.gil@cines.fr" class="" target="_blank">gerard.gil@cines.fr</a> wrote:<br class=""> <br class=""> Hi Miguel,<br class=""> <br class=""><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> Why not? You can have multiple QoSs and you have other techniques to change<br class=""> priorities according to your policies.</blockquote><br class=""> <br class=""> Is this answer my question ?<br class=""> <br class=""> "If all configured QOS use NoDecay, we can take advantage of the FairShare<br class=""> priority with Decay and all jobs GrpTRESRaw with NoDecay ?"<br class=""> <br class=""> Thanks<br class=""> <br class=""> Best,</blockquote></blockquote><br class=""> > > Gérard<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>